Episode 33: Passion


In this episode, Cory and Laine discuss Angel’s monologuing, various parenting styles, and just how wonderful the Sunnydale detectives must be to let Giles leave an active crime scene with his stash of medieval weapons.

Thanks for joining us for Season 2, Episode 17: Passion.



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Music for this episode is “Digging a Grave,” by Shadows from the Underground, and is used under license from Audiosocket.

One thought on “Episode 33: Passion

  1. How did I forget about Angel’s (Angelus’) scene with Joyce? He played that in the most terrifying way possible. The phone call at the end of the episode obviously stuck in my mind, but for some reason I’m always surprised by the Angel & Joyce scene in this ep, and how truly chilling it is. When he says “I haven’t been able to sleep since the night we made love” I look as horrified as Joyce does, each time I watch it. It’s a great scene because it’s so effective in showing how manipulative Angelus likes to be, and the lengths he will go to to manipulate the people around his ‘target.’

    I loved the discussion of the different ways Angel and Spike approach potential victims, and I can see Spike’s motivation having to do with how he was treated when he was human. I wish I remembered more about Liam, because I can remember Spike’s days as a human, and I feel like they gave him some very clear motivation, but I can’t really remember anything about Angel’s time as a human other than that he kind of just drank and did nothing (and I’m pretty sure was one of the many characters on Buffy and Angel who had issues with his father). Did they ever adequately answer why Angelus was so interested in breaking people down the way he did? You’d think with him having his own series they would have, but I feel like they didn’t even get into Liam too much on that show.

    Jenny’s death was so impactful, and I kind of don’t love how it was immediately used to spur Giles’ grief and rage, but I also understand why it was done that way (Jenny never was really a main character) and how that was effective in its own right. But as the first kind of major character death (outside of the pilot, but we really didn’t get a chance to know Jesse) and it was pretty shocking to me when I first watched it. I soon became inured to the happiness-tragedy tipping point in Joss’s shows and movies. Btw, I remember hearing (but I could be totally wrong about this and I can’t remember where I heard it) that Oz was originally going to be the one killed off. I feel like I heard this from a credible source, but I can’t really see how Oz being killed by Angelus would have fit with the soul restoration plot.


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